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08-12-2009, 03:25 PM
Feedback on "Don't Force"</B>
I received about 300 letters in response to my last email (http://silverstockreport.com/2009/force.html), which is about 5 times as many as average. I could only respond to a few. Here are some of the more articulate letters, just a few, including the most thought-provoking, the good, the bad, and the flatteringly obsequious. Why am I sharing these? The internet is a unique communications medium, and so is my service. The emails I receive are even moreso, and it seems that people really enjoy the sense of "community" that sharing these helps to create. It's nice to know that we who believe the same way are not alone.
From all the feedback, I get the reaffirming sense that we Christians really do hold back and restrain much evil in the world, as is indicated by 2 Thessalonians 2.
6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
I also share these letters so that you all understand that I was not rebuking the nay-sayers because "I'm emotionally down, or depressed" by what they say. No, these letters show that I recieve at least 5-10 letters in support for all those who get angry. Although the encouragement from others certainly helps me, and I find it most stimulating, it's God's truth that that really drives me, and I really enjoy the discussions.
As for restraining evil, it seems we may have serious work to do.
For ten years, I've been reading of the concentration camps being built across the nation. I was never really brave enough to mention it, or I thought it was not important, not on topic for my newsletter, or perhaps overblown. This week, the Army began advertising to hire Concentration Camp Guards, or "Internment / Resettlement Specialist", which I heard from several sources. Here's one.
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/08/fed-now-hiring-concentration-camp-guards.html (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/08/fed-now-hiring-concentration-camp-guards.html)
So, be on the alert, or take some actions to expose these evil men in power today. With that, here are a few letters.
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Jason--if you want to "dish it out" you have to be man enough to "take it" when people who don't agree with your religious priorities "get your goat" I am sort of a loyal reader--even have considered spending $$ for a thousand rounds or two. You have to grow up and stop taking MY TIME in your "war of words" with people who suck you into their "vortex"---and drag you down the drain.
Next time--read what you write after you decide to "tell them off-"----AND THEN ERASE IT . None of us want to hear it--j c evans
Jason notes: My letter was not about me "defending myself". The attacks I have received, such as "don't force your religion on me" have provided an occasion for me to point out critical truths, that force does not work, and that I'm not practicing nor advocating any force.
Furthermore, all silver investors who are buying silver, hoping to profit handsomely as we hope the world returns to the sanity of honest money of silver and gold, ought to know that you cannot have free and honest money without actual freedom, too. And today, people actually need to be taught what freedom is, because it's only an ideal, no society has ever really had it, and thus, it's unfamiliar to all, and the definition of freedom is hotly debated even among the most dedicated philosophers and theologians.
The fact is that honest money will not support a totalitarian state, nor will it support a nanny state. Gold and silver as money stand in the way of government confiscation of property -- Alan Greenspan said something similar.
Silver, as money, can support a bad government through excessively high profits from seigniorage. For example, one of the most totalitarian governments we've had in the USA was under FDR in the great depression, and at that time, there was a 400% profit margin on making government silver coins. That was NOT honest money, in my opinion, even though it was silver. No, it was price fixing, above market rates, not free market silver money.
I can paraphrase modern proverbs if you like:
"A government big enough to give you whatever you want, is big enough to take everything you have."
And, "A people who choose security over freedom, deserve neither freedom nor security!"
If you don't understand that the issues of freedom are critical for investors in gold and silver to understand, then the fault might be mine, or any of the other advisors in the sector.
If you long for the day when you can see silver as money, please remember that the government will probably be radically different. It will likely be a lot more free, and it will be hated by many. The leech gets angry when cut off the host.
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Jason.
Sorry, but I get so angry over what our Government has done. Not only to us today, but for the next twenty five years to come. I want to share with you items you may not yet know, but soon will see. I am a mortgage banker, and lender. We are tracking the Alt-A markets in CA and throughout U.S. Alt -A means, Negative amortization loans, or simply weaker loan, that where placed into ARMS, with huge margins. 58% of the remaining loan that where originated late 2005 or early 2006 are about to mature.As we speak now, 82% of these loans where no documentation, or stated income, stated assets. Very weak loans. Along with their negative amortizations, the principal has exceeded the collateral and will explode. Now here is the real numbers. As of Friday, Aug 7th 2009 57% of the 82% where in default, and the Government knows it. Here is more fun facts for you. Colonial Bank was shut down Aug 3rd by HUD Federal Reserve. Seems Colonial Bank was trying to make a profit on their warehouse lines. Lets go further, Colonial Bank owns or services 20% of the remaining housing market that is in default. The crippling effect, Immediately, Taylor Bean & Whitaker ceased its business entirely. Citi Group is next up at bat, as their ready to take the next plunge, I expect within 60 days or less, as they have pull out of third party lenders selling loan to them, and no longer Ginnie Mae #1 pricing. When the market which we thought would be July 2010 explodes, as its doing now. Oct, Nov, Dec, 2008 will look like kids play. Jason this beast is coming, and it will surprise many Americans, and to be honest, their will be nothing more to do, than watch the gathering. Jason, I offer you fact, not fiction. DO some research on Colonial Bank or Taylor Bean Whitaker. Do some research on Ciit Mortgage. Their is another man such as yourself who tries to help consumers and general people. You can find him on youtube. His name is the mortgage man. My mentor, he is a former Wall Street guy who wanted no more. What do you think Silver will be worth next year? I say, 31,55 per ounce, based on my math. Gold will lose ground, as it will not be a kings ransom, only a workers hunger. I tell my wife everyday, imagine if you only knew the future? Well I do, and I don't like it.
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Mr. Hommel,
I have been following your reports now for about a year and a half and cannot really recall anything that I disagreed with and definitely nothing that I would catagorize as offensive or objectionable. It appears to me though that maybe you are starting to let your detractors get to you. Pay them no attention sir as God knows what is in your heart. I am 46 years old and have been battling cancer now for 10 long years. Following an unsuccessful bone marrow transplant, it appears now that the cancer has won. Although this has taken a heavy toll on me physically, my faith in Jesus Christ will never be shaken. I can't wait for the unimaginable joys in Heaven, and the day that I get to bow down in the prescence of the great I AM. Anyway I have taken your advice on silver investing to try and leave my wife financially secure after I'm called home. I am just average middle class, but since putting my assets into metal I've more than doubled my net worth. For that I thank you. And you're right, no one want's to hear about silver despite the ease and accessability of information. Anyway, I hope you continue the newsletter, I'll keep getting silver little by little, and we both know that this is satans domain for now so we're fighting an epic battle. It's ok though, we both know how the story ends!
Your fellow believer in Christ, Andy
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Right on Jason -- totally agree. One thing the [green] authoritarians don't acknowledge is that they are pushing their religion on others. There is more religious fervor behind global warming and cap and trade, than supporting science. The oldest religions [Paganism, Druid ism, etc] deify and personalize the earth and nature. Al Gore's "our earth has a fever" is a clear articulation of pagan sentiment. Additionally, they [greens] hate Christians because Christians believe the earth and its resources were given by God to man. This infuriates them because they worship the sun, water, rain, seasons, harvest, mother earth, etc and despise those that do not adhere to the same religious tenets.
God Bless; keep up the great work.
Kevin
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Jason this was well written and I agree with most everything you said. I'm not sure what you were referring to exactly
when you mentioned "Unfortunately, ignorant Christian zealots who pushed for prohibition in the 1920's, and who advocate the "drug war" today and laws against homosexuality, give God a bad name. God said to let those who do evil, to continue to do it."
Are you speaking as a Libertarian here?
As you know God is against homosexuality as a lifestyle. When the Jews and Christians lived under Roman
rule homosexuality was not just tolerated but condoned and practiced. The Jews and Christians could never
according to their religions belief and practice put anybody to death as they could under the O.T. when they
lived as a free sovereign country. The best they could do was excommunicate that person which was a
type of capital punishment. Paul said such people were "worthy of death" so he recognized the legitimacy
of the death penalty for certain sins.
It is a sin and while some Christians would advocate a return for the death penalty for such behavior (they put it
in the same category as murder and adultery which also merited capital punishment) I am not sure that
is where our focus should be. What goes on in secret in the bedroom I've been told should be allowed
to happen without punishment. We say this about the sins of homosexuality and adultery perhaps but
we would never say that about murder. Murder is always wrong isn't it? IF so then isn't homosexual
behavior also always wrong? Likewise, adultery?
There always had to be two or more witnesses in cases of capital punishment. I do believe that today
the death penalty serves as a deterrent (at least the murderer will never murder again if he or she is
executed) but there must be solid evidence and proof of guilt and I'm not speaking of circumstantial
evidence.
We do know from early American history that homosexual behavior was
probably met with the death penalty because the Puritans were following Biblical law and were not trying
to be wiser than God but simply following the Bible and God's mind on the matter.
When men create laws that go beyond what the Bible permits and what God has sanctioned then I say
that is wrong because we are trying to be wiser than God. However, if a state decides to enforce
the Ten Commandments and attaches the O.T. penalties for violationg them then we are on shaky
ground to disagree with such jurisprudence.
There is a decline in American jurisprudence because there is a decline in Biblical law and it's enforcement.
Most judges don't even read the Bible. It would do our nation good if the Supreme Court justices
and other judges were required to memorize and learn the Ten Commandments and the penalties
for their violation. Unfortunately, statism is humanism and man-made law without regard to God's
law word.
A godly or Christian state would advocate a return to Biblical law don't you think rather than humanistic
law that basically allows such sins to not only be practiced and tolerated but flourish and dominate a
society.
This is where I disagree with Libertarianism. When it comes to economics the Libertarian is basically
correct about not wanting the government to get involved and letting the free market decided.
However, when it comes to ethics and morality the Libertarian calls such sins as homosexuality
"victimless crimes". This seems irrational to me. There are no victimless crimes by definition.
If a crime has been committed then somebody is a victim. Thus you would not punish a person for
having homosexual thoughts or having a preference for this lifestyle but only for acting on such
deviance. I call it deviance because God uses a worse term. He says it is an abomination for
man to lay with mankind as with womankind. He sets the standard not man. We must simply follow
His directives.
Every civilization, according to the historian Arnold Toynbee, that allowed and condoned
homosexuality was marked for destruction. This was true of Roman. America is no different and we can
see God's impending judgment upon our nation now. It is marked for ruin because there is no repentance
for many of the sins we commit including homosexuality, adultery, fornication, the practice of witchcraft,
Satanism and other false religions. Murder is rampant because the murderer often get put in prison instead of getting executed.
Charles Manson is living a pretty good life at the tax payers expense while his victims bodies are rotting
in the grave.
These are just some of my thoughts. Sorry for being so wordy but if you agree or disagree I'd appreciate
your feedback.
best regards,
Carlton
Jason replied:
As I see it, many things changed in the NT.
We don't have to do animal sacrifices, because Jesus is it.
We don't have to deny the eating of unkosher foods, as the gospel went to the gentiles.
This is not "permissiveness", but a clarification.
Other "laws" are not laws, but spiritual awareness enhancements.
IE, hate is equated to murder.
Lust is equated to adultry.
There is no call to kill people who hate or lust. These are "thought crimes".
There is no call to enforce the Old Testament laws on others.
There is a strong call to live up to New Testament clarifications in our own lives, which should convict the true Christian of their constant battle against personal sin.
IE, if we are deserving of death (as I continue to sometimes hate or lust) the death penalty is no more called to be enforced on others, as, to prevent being a hypocrite, I would have to kill myself first. There is no call for that, either.
We repent, and try to do better in our own lives. We try to let our light shine, as if on a hill, as an example, not to force others to behave a certain way.
Can you point a gun at a man, and tell him to not to lust at another man, or woman? No.
Ridiculous.
The law is a teacher, instructions, guidelines, for US not others. If others sin, it hurts them, not us. If two men lie with one another, and they engage in abomination, how would that hurt me?
But as all of society follows paper money, we are all hurt.
Should we kill borrowers then?
Absolutely not. Neither should we kill all who use paper money, preposterous.
There is a call to practice forgiveness, for ourselves and others.
God bless you for asking.
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Dear Jason,
You hit the nail on the head "They want me to pay for their wars ----.., whether I want to or not, through taxation by force. All I can say is game, set and match. Keep on saying it how it is.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Hi Jason,
Don't Shove Your Religion Down My Throat!
Yeah, like that is really scary! Unlike the government's plan of brute force and micro-management at every turn. Where do these clueless whiners come from?
Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Cola
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Go Jason GO!!!! I am an 81 year old cheerleader--.(a metaphor, of course). I read everything I can to try to understand the world that sort of appeared out of nowhere, suddenly--.I long for the lost sanity of what I think of a "My Day". And then there is your voice which steps from the written screen--giving me hope. Just thought I'd tell you thank you--.Eve
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Good day, I was sad to hear that people are ? I can not think of the right word. Maybe they are confused. I dearly search each day for your next post. It gives me so much spirit and strength. It brings me to the water of life. It is honest common sense. I know this is a little goofy--------why not give us some live youtube 10 min pep talks. You are my Hero Jason. You have great common sense and are one of the few honest men I enjoy reading. Comfort from the truth calms me. God Bless your soul. You clearly are a very old soul. Respectfully, JAF
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JASON
YOU HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT PLATFORM OUT HERE FOR YOU ACCURATE TRUE COMMENTS
Ignore the idiots who want you to change course you are doing good and right in GOD’S eyes
THAT’s what counts and will win!!
Keep it up
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Jason:
Today as never before the name of Jesus is a lightening rod for everything. I have been ploughing through Jeremiah recently. The book holds a precise "court indictment" if you will of the sins of Gods people. They (the people) enjoyed their sinful ways - and Jeremiah reminding them to turn away or else met with hostility, the same kind you are encountering. The people of the world today are acting similarly to the people in Jeremiahs day and you my friend are another Jeremiah with a softer touch, and I like it. May God bless your work.
Regards, John
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Jason:
For what it is worth.
As an observer of the human condition in many of it's best and worst lights for 60 years now, I got to tell you that I believe you are one of the most honorable men I have ever met--at least on line. You, Butler, Sinclair, Chapman and even Maund.
I have never felt you pushed you beliefs on me and honestly don't believe you have. You are who you are and most of us reading your e-mails are different versions of you so we don't have any problem with scripture. You put it out there for everyone to see and are consistent about it.
I hope you don't let these people get under your skin.
Michael --.deep in the Mountains
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Jason
Kudos for this blast!
A BIG point you made that few others mention is the government's war on alternative medicine. Obamacare will only accelerate that ominous trend.
Ironically, natural medicine is KEY to improving the health of the nation's citizens, and it is the ONLY way. Moreover, it is the LEAST EXPENSIVE approach.
Now, Obama administration hacks and their congressional allies are accusing concerned citizens of using THEIR "rent-a-mob" tactics.
This is how Hitler took power. The trend is scary.
Regards,
Monnie
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Dear Mr Hommel
The non-believers / accusers sucked you in!
Keep your email for six months from now and you feel you have to either explain or justify your spiritual position.
Suggestion: Dont waste your time, words and energy. They choose to be ignorant and foolish. Stay focused and stay with the 90% percent who understands and respects YOUR RIGHT to be who you wish to be!
Thank you Roberto, retired teacher 69 years young!
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Hey Jason,
Just continue to preach Christ risen, that is what the world needs to hear, for it is by hearing the Word of God which lead to the saving of the soul. Also, God never have us a religion, nor is He interested in the religions of this present evil world. God made a way to establish a Relationship with Him, and this by a relationship with Jesus, God wants a relationship with everyone who will seek Him, and who has believed on Jesus, the crucified one.
Religion is man made, man's attempt to reconcile himself to God in his own way, that is why there are so many religions in the world. However, God has made only one way, that is through His Son, who is the way the truth and the life.
Bruce / servant to King Jesus
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Bravo, --. excellent email. It's about time I hear people stand up for right and justice and those who cry out. Does not people see wisdom crying out in the streets in your emails? I know and believe deeply it is those who reach with full effort to know and understand the way of Yahweh ("LORD" an overlay and not a translation) are the one's who survive. In some if not most we will be the ones of having Godly abundance which applies to many aspects of life and not just economics.
More... (http://www.24hgold.com/english/contributor.aspx?rss=true&article=2261042682G10020&redirect=false&contributor=Jason+Hommel)
I received about 300 letters in response to my last email (http://silverstockreport.com/2009/force.html), which is about 5 times as many as average. I could only respond to a few. Here are some of the more articulate letters, just a few, including the most thought-provoking, the good, the bad, and the flatteringly obsequious. Why am I sharing these? The internet is a unique communications medium, and so is my service. The emails I receive are even moreso, and it seems that people really enjoy the sense of "community" that sharing these helps to create. It's nice to know that we who believe the same way are not alone.
From all the feedback, I get the reaffirming sense that we Christians really do hold back and restrain much evil in the world, as is indicated by 2 Thessalonians 2.
6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
I also share these letters so that you all understand that I was not rebuking the nay-sayers because "I'm emotionally down, or depressed" by what they say. No, these letters show that I recieve at least 5-10 letters in support for all those who get angry. Although the encouragement from others certainly helps me, and I find it most stimulating, it's God's truth that that really drives me, and I really enjoy the discussions.
As for restraining evil, it seems we may have serious work to do.
For ten years, I've been reading of the concentration camps being built across the nation. I was never really brave enough to mention it, or I thought it was not important, not on topic for my newsletter, or perhaps overblown. This week, the Army began advertising to hire Concentration Camp Guards, or "Internment / Resettlement Specialist", which I heard from several sources. Here's one.
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/08/fed-now-hiring-concentration-camp-guards.html (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/08/fed-now-hiring-concentration-camp-guards.html)
So, be on the alert, or take some actions to expose these evil men in power today. With that, here are a few letters.
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Jason--if you want to "dish it out" you have to be man enough to "take it" when people who don't agree with your religious priorities "get your goat" I am sort of a loyal reader--even have considered spending $$ for a thousand rounds or two. You have to grow up and stop taking MY TIME in your "war of words" with people who suck you into their "vortex"---and drag you down the drain.
Next time--read what you write after you decide to "tell them off-"----AND THEN ERASE IT . None of us want to hear it--j c evans
Jason notes: My letter was not about me "defending myself". The attacks I have received, such as "don't force your religion on me" have provided an occasion for me to point out critical truths, that force does not work, and that I'm not practicing nor advocating any force.
Furthermore, all silver investors who are buying silver, hoping to profit handsomely as we hope the world returns to the sanity of honest money of silver and gold, ought to know that you cannot have free and honest money without actual freedom, too. And today, people actually need to be taught what freedom is, because it's only an ideal, no society has ever really had it, and thus, it's unfamiliar to all, and the definition of freedom is hotly debated even among the most dedicated philosophers and theologians.
The fact is that honest money will not support a totalitarian state, nor will it support a nanny state. Gold and silver as money stand in the way of government confiscation of property -- Alan Greenspan said something similar.
Silver, as money, can support a bad government through excessively high profits from seigniorage. For example, one of the most totalitarian governments we've had in the USA was under FDR in the great depression, and at that time, there was a 400% profit margin on making government silver coins. That was NOT honest money, in my opinion, even though it was silver. No, it was price fixing, above market rates, not free market silver money.
I can paraphrase modern proverbs if you like:
"A government big enough to give you whatever you want, is big enough to take everything you have."
And, "A people who choose security over freedom, deserve neither freedom nor security!"
If you don't understand that the issues of freedom are critical for investors in gold and silver to understand, then the fault might be mine, or any of the other advisors in the sector.
If you long for the day when you can see silver as money, please remember that the government will probably be radically different. It will likely be a lot more free, and it will be hated by many. The leech gets angry when cut off the host.
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Jason.
Sorry, but I get so angry over what our Government has done. Not only to us today, but for the next twenty five years to come. I want to share with you items you may not yet know, but soon will see. I am a mortgage banker, and lender. We are tracking the Alt-A markets in CA and throughout U.S. Alt -A means, Negative amortization loans, or simply weaker loan, that where placed into ARMS, with huge margins. 58% of the remaining loan that where originated late 2005 or early 2006 are about to mature.As we speak now, 82% of these loans where no documentation, or stated income, stated assets. Very weak loans. Along with their negative amortizations, the principal has exceeded the collateral and will explode. Now here is the real numbers. As of Friday, Aug 7th 2009 57% of the 82% where in default, and the Government knows it. Here is more fun facts for you. Colonial Bank was shut down Aug 3rd by HUD Federal Reserve. Seems Colonial Bank was trying to make a profit on their warehouse lines. Lets go further, Colonial Bank owns or services 20% of the remaining housing market that is in default. The crippling effect, Immediately, Taylor Bean & Whitaker ceased its business entirely. Citi Group is next up at bat, as their ready to take the next plunge, I expect within 60 days or less, as they have pull out of third party lenders selling loan to them, and no longer Ginnie Mae #1 pricing. When the market which we thought would be July 2010 explodes, as its doing now. Oct, Nov, Dec, 2008 will look like kids play. Jason this beast is coming, and it will surprise many Americans, and to be honest, their will be nothing more to do, than watch the gathering. Jason, I offer you fact, not fiction. DO some research on Colonial Bank or Taylor Bean Whitaker. Do some research on Ciit Mortgage. Their is another man such as yourself who tries to help consumers and general people. You can find him on youtube. His name is the mortgage man. My mentor, he is a former Wall Street guy who wanted no more. What do you think Silver will be worth next year? I say, 31,55 per ounce, based on my math. Gold will lose ground, as it will not be a kings ransom, only a workers hunger. I tell my wife everyday, imagine if you only knew the future? Well I do, and I don't like it.
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Mr. Hommel,
I have been following your reports now for about a year and a half and cannot really recall anything that I disagreed with and definitely nothing that I would catagorize as offensive or objectionable. It appears to me though that maybe you are starting to let your detractors get to you. Pay them no attention sir as God knows what is in your heart. I am 46 years old and have been battling cancer now for 10 long years. Following an unsuccessful bone marrow transplant, it appears now that the cancer has won. Although this has taken a heavy toll on me physically, my faith in Jesus Christ will never be shaken. I can't wait for the unimaginable joys in Heaven, and the day that I get to bow down in the prescence of the great I AM. Anyway I have taken your advice on silver investing to try and leave my wife financially secure after I'm called home. I am just average middle class, but since putting my assets into metal I've more than doubled my net worth. For that I thank you. And you're right, no one want's to hear about silver despite the ease and accessability of information. Anyway, I hope you continue the newsletter, I'll keep getting silver little by little, and we both know that this is satans domain for now so we're fighting an epic battle. It's ok though, we both know how the story ends!
Your fellow believer in Christ, Andy
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Right on Jason -- totally agree. One thing the [green] authoritarians don't acknowledge is that they are pushing their religion on others. There is more religious fervor behind global warming and cap and trade, than supporting science. The oldest religions [Paganism, Druid ism, etc] deify and personalize the earth and nature. Al Gore's "our earth has a fever" is a clear articulation of pagan sentiment. Additionally, they [greens] hate Christians because Christians believe the earth and its resources were given by God to man. This infuriates them because they worship the sun, water, rain, seasons, harvest, mother earth, etc and despise those that do not adhere to the same religious tenets.
God Bless; keep up the great work.
Kevin
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Jason this was well written and I agree with most everything you said. I'm not sure what you were referring to exactly
when you mentioned "Unfortunately, ignorant Christian zealots who pushed for prohibition in the 1920's, and who advocate the "drug war" today and laws against homosexuality, give God a bad name. God said to let those who do evil, to continue to do it."
Are you speaking as a Libertarian here?
As you know God is against homosexuality as a lifestyle. When the Jews and Christians lived under Roman
rule homosexuality was not just tolerated but condoned and practiced. The Jews and Christians could never
according to their religions belief and practice put anybody to death as they could under the O.T. when they
lived as a free sovereign country. The best they could do was excommunicate that person which was a
type of capital punishment. Paul said such people were "worthy of death" so he recognized the legitimacy
of the death penalty for certain sins.
It is a sin and while some Christians would advocate a return for the death penalty for such behavior (they put it
in the same category as murder and adultery which also merited capital punishment) I am not sure that
is where our focus should be. What goes on in secret in the bedroom I've been told should be allowed
to happen without punishment. We say this about the sins of homosexuality and adultery perhaps but
we would never say that about murder. Murder is always wrong isn't it? IF so then isn't homosexual
behavior also always wrong? Likewise, adultery?
There always had to be two or more witnesses in cases of capital punishment. I do believe that today
the death penalty serves as a deterrent (at least the murderer will never murder again if he or she is
executed) but there must be solid evidence and proof of guilt and I'm not speaking of circumstantial
evidence.
We do know from early American history that homosexual behavior was
probably met with the death penalty because the Puritans were following Biblical law and were not trying
to be wiser than God but simply following the Bible and God's mind on the matter.
When men create laws that go beyond what the Bible permits and what God has sanctioned then I say
that is wrong because we are trying to be wiser than God. However, if a state decides to enforce
the Ten Commandments and attaches the O.T. penalties for violationg them then we are on shaky
ground to disagree with such jurisprudence.
There is a decline in American jurisprudence because there is a decline in Biblical law and it's enforcement.
Most judges don't even read the Bible. It would do our nation good if the Supreme Court justices
and other judges were required to memorize and learn the Ten Commandments and the penalties
for their violation. Unfortunately, statism is humanism and man-made law without regard to God's
law word.
A godly or Christian state would advocate a return to Biblical law don't you think rather than humanistic
law that basically allows such sins to not only be practiced and tolerated but flourish and dominate a
society.
This is where I disagree with Libertarianism. When it comes to economics the Libertarian is basically
correct about not wanting the government to get involved and letting the free market decided.
However, when it comes to ethics and morality the Libertarian calls such sins as homosexuality
"victimless crimes". This seems irrational to me. There are no victimless crimes by definition.
If a crime has been committed then somebody is a victim. Thus you would not punish a person for
having homosexual thoughts or having a preference for this lifestyle but only for acting on such
deviance. I call it deviance because God uses a worse term. He says it is an abomination for
man to lay with mankind as with womankind. He sets the standard not man. We must simply follow
His directives.
Every civilization, according to the historian Arnold Toynbee, that allowed and condoned
homosexuality was marked for destruction. This was true of Roman. America is no different and we can
see God's impending judgment upon our nation now. It is marked for ruin because there is no repentance
for many of the sins we commit including homosexuality, adultery, fornication, the practice of witchcraft,
Satanism and other false religions. Murder is rampant because the murderer often get put in prison instead of getting executed.
Charles Manson is living a pretty good life at the tax payers expense while his victims bodies are rotting
in the grave.
These are just some of my thoughts. Sorry for being so wordy but if you agree or disagree I'd appreciate
your feedback.
best regards,
Carlton
Jason replied:
As I see it, many things changed in the NT.
We don't have to do animal sacrifices, because Jesus is it.
We don't have to deny the eating of unkosher foods, as the gospel went to the gentiles.
This is not "permissiveness", but a clarification.
Other "laws" are not laws, but spiritual awareness enhancements.
IE, hate is equated to murder.
Lust is equated to adultry.
There is no call to kill people who hate or lust. These are "thought crimes".
There is no call to enforce the Old Testament laws on others.
There is a strong call to live up to New Testament clarifications in our own lives, which should convict the true Christian of their constant battle against personal sin.
IE, if we are deserving of death (as I continue to sometimes hate or lust) the death penalty is no more called to be enforced on others, as, to prevent being a hypocrite, I would have to kill myself first. There is no call for that, either.
We repent, and try to do better in our own lives. We try to let our light shine, as if on a hill, as an example, not to force others to behave a certain way.
Can you point a gun at a man, and tell him to not to lust at another man, or woman? No.
Ridiculous.
The law is a teacher, instructions, guidelines, for US not others. If others sin, it hurts them, not us. If two men lie with one another, and they engage in abomination, how would that hurt me?
But as all of society follows paper money, we are all hurt.
Should we kill borrowers then?
Absolutely not. Neither should we kill all who use paper money, preposterous.
There is a call to practice forgiveness, for ourselves and others.
God bless you for asking.
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Dear Jason,
You hit the nail on the head "They want me to pay for their wars ----.., whether I want to or not, through taxation by force. All I can say is game, set and match. Keep on saying it how it is.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Hi Jason,
Don't Shove Your Religion Down My Throat!
Yeah, like that is really scary! Unlike the government's plan of brute force and micro-management at every turn. Where do these clueless whiners come from?
Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Cola
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Go Jason GO!!!! I am an 81 year old cheerleader--.(a metaphor, of course). I read everything I can to try to understand the world that sort of appeared out of nowhere, suddenly--.I long for the lost sanity of what I think of a "My Day". And then there is your voice which steps from the written screen--giving me hope. Just thought I'd tell you thank you--.Eve
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Good day, I was sad to hear that people are ? I can not think of the right word. Maybe they are confused. I dearly search each day for your next post. It gives me so much spirit and strength. It brings me to the water of life. It is honest common sense. I know this is a little goofy--------why not give us some live youtube 10 min pep talks. You are my Hero Jason. You have great common sense and are one of the few honest men I enjoy reading. Comfort from the truth calms me. God Bless your soul. You clearly are a very old soul. Respectfully, JAF
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JASON
YOU HAVE A HUGE SUPPORT PLATFORM OUT HERE FOR YOU ACCURATE TRUE COMMENTS
Ignore the idiots who want you to change course you are doing good and right in GOD’S eyes
THAT’s what counts and will win!!
Keep it up
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Jason:
Today as never before the name of Jesus is a lightening rod for everything. I have been ploughing through Jeremiah recently. The book holds a precise "court indictment" if you will of the sins of Gods people. They (the people) enjoyed their sinful ways - and Jeremiah reminding them to turn away or else met with hostility, the same kind you are encountering. The people of the world today are acting similarly to the people in Jeremiahs day and you my friend are another Jeremiah with a softer touch, and I like it. May God bless your work.
Regards, John
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Jason:
For what it is worth.
As an observer of the human condition in many of it's best and worst lights for 60 years now, I got to tell you that I believe you are one of the most honorable men I have ever met--at least on line. You, Butler, Sinclair, Chapman and even Maund.
I have never felt you pushed you beliefs on me and honestly don't believe you have. You are who you are and most of us reading your e-mails are different versions of you so we don't have any problem with scripture. You put it out there for everyone to see and are consistent about it.
I hope you don't let these people get under your skin.
Michael --.deep in the Mountains
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Jason
Kudos for this blast!
A BIG point you made that few others mention is the government's war on alternative medicine. Obamacare will only accelerate that ominous trend.
Ironically, natural medicine is KEY to improving the health of the nation's citizens, and it is the ONLY way. Moreover, it is the LEAST EXPENSIVE approach.
Now, Obama administration hacks and their congressional allies are accusing concerned citizens of using THEIR "rent-a-mob" tactics.
This is how Hitler took power. The trend is scary.
Regards,
Monnie
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Dear Mr Hommel
The non-believers / accusers sucked you in!
Keep your email for six months from now and you feel you have to either explain or justify your spiritual position.
Suggestion: Dont waste your time, words and energy. They choose to be ignorant and foolish. Stay focused and stay with the 90% percent who understands and respects YOUR RIGHT to be who you wish to be!
Thank you Roberto, retired teacher 69 years young!
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Hey Jason,
Just continue to preach Christ risen, that is what the world needs to hear, for it is by hearing the Word of God which lead to the saving of the soul. Also, God never have us a religion, nor is He interested in the religions of this present evil world. God made a way to establish a Relationship with Him, and this by a relationship with Jesus, God wants a relationship with everyone who will seek Him, and who has believed on Jesus, the crucified one.
Religion is man made, man's attempt to reconcile himself to God in his own way, that is why there are so many religions in the world. However, God has made only one way, that is through His Son, who is the way the truth and the life.
Bruce / servant to King Jesus
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Bravo, --. excellent email. It's about time I hear people stand up for right and justice and those who cry out. Does not people see wisdom crying out in the streets in your emails? I know and believe deeply it is those who reach with full effort to know and understand the way of Yahweh ("LORD" an overlay and not a translation) are the one's who survive. In some if not most we will be the ones of having Godly abundance which applies to many aspects of life and not just economics.
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